Comments on: Centre of Independent Studies is deliberately deceiving the public. It is campaigning for the imposition of carbon taxes. http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/ Free markets, capital, and entrepreneurs are the bedrock of civilisation.They dragged man out of the gutters,civilised him,dignified him,gave him liberty.Socialism is an excuse to pauperise untold millions,enslave untold millions,murder untold millions, over a century now: Why has the Liberal Party shifted to the code of savages? Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:24:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Mangled Thoughts » The CIS and Greg Lindsay must be flushing hot red. http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1146 Mangled Thoughts » The CIS and Greg Lindsay must be flushing hot red. Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:46:02 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1146 [...] is one more question in need of a response. observer wrote: Douglas you silly silly man…You’re giving Humphreys a renewed boost of publicity that it [...] […] is one more question in need of a response. observer wrote: Douglas you silly silly man…You’re giving Humphreys a renewed boost of publicity that it […]

]]> By: Graeme Bird http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1137 Graeme Bird Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:53:21 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1137 Its fine for Humphreys to be getting publicity. Because it will show that any claims to authentic libertarians being soft on a carbon tax are just horseshit. And on top of that everyone will be able to see the shiftiness of the pro-carbon-tax arguments. And their baselessness. Even if they don't see that it will be implied by the Humphreys evasiveness, hardcore nihilism and fundamental flippancy towards the liberty and lives of others. Its very hard to see how a policy could ever be more slimy than this one. More calculated to do harm. More well-thought-out to boost the environmentalist and goals for global energy-rationing. More counter to the realities of the energy resources that we have to hand. It used to be when you plotted against the well-being and sovereignty of ones own country. Well we used to have words for this sort of thing and we used to look rather askance at this sort of behaviour. Its fine for Humphreys to be getting publicity. Because it will show that any claims to authentic libertarians being soft on a carbon tax are just horseshit. And on top of that everyone will be able to see the shiftiness of the pro-carbon-tax arguments. And their baselessness.

Even if they don’t see that it will be implied by the Humphreys evasiveness, hardcore nihilism and fundamental flippancy towards the liberty and lives of others.

Its very hard to see how a policy could ever be more slimy than this one. More calculated to do harm. More well-thought-out to boost the environmentalist and goals for global energy-rationing. More counter to the realities of the energy resources that we have to hand.

It used to be when you plotted against the well-being and sovereignty of ones own country. Well we used to have words for this sort of thing and we used to look rather askance at this sort of behaviour.

]]> By: Graeme Bird http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1131 Graeme Bird Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:06:22 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1131 It all sounds like "plausible deniability" to me. We've not had one of these incompetent posers actually distance themselves from a carbon tax. Thats a very easy thing to do. Until they do that they ought to take some responsibility for the stories they run. A carpal tunnel syndrome disclaimer isn't going to cut it for these jerks this time around. Where's Norton? Hardly a campaigner against the tax is he? This commie poser. This weakassed libertarian who calls himself that just for some undeserved street cred. It all sounds like “plausible deniability” to me. We’ve not had one of these incompetent posers actually distance themselves from a carbon tax. Thats a very easy thing to do.

Until they do that they ought to take some responsibility for the stories they run.

A carpal tunnel syndrome disclaimer isn’t going to cut it for these jerks this time around.

Where’s Norton? Hardly a campaigner against the tax is he? This commie poser. This weakassed libertarian who calls himself that just for some undeserved street cred.

]]> By: observer http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1127 observer Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:49:43 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1127 Douglas you silly silly man You're giving Humphreys a renewed boost of publicity that it hasn't had for a while. Humphreys did not get a cent for the paper. The CIS hasn't done any 'campaigning' for the paper since it got released. The most recent source of publicity has been you. It's an Issue Analysis and the back of each issue analysis says the opinions are only the opinions of the author not the Centre or its employees. Humphreys isn't an employee and spends his time travelling around doing his own stuff. But keep up with all the free publicity anyway, you dope. Douglas you silly silly man

You’re giving Humphreys a renewed boost of publicity that it hasn’t had for a while. Humphreys did not get a cent for the paper. The CIS hasn’t done any ‘campaigning’ for the paper since it got released. The most recent source of publicity has been you. It’s an Issue Analysis and the back of each issue analysis says the opinions are only the opinions of the author not the Centre or its employees. Humphreys isn’t an employee and spends his time travelling around doing his own stuff.

But keep up with all the free publicity anyway, you dope.

]]> By: John Humphreys http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1124 John Humphreys Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:08:38 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1124 Though you do raise one good point, about being paid. Given my central role in the subversion of the free world the overthrow of humanity, I probably should have been paid for that monograph!! Greg -- are you reading this? :) Though you do raise one good point, about being paid. Given my central role in the subversion of the free world the overthrow of humanity, I probably should have been paid for that monograph!!

Greg — are you reading this? :)

]]> By: John Humphreys http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1123 John Humphreys Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:03:06 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1123 lol... another solid doug rant. Fun for the whole family. Unfortunately, you forgot to answer the question. I'll repeat it in case you've forgotten: <i>Which do you prefer — a high fuel tax and no electricity tax… or a low fuel tax and a low electricity tax?</i> Come on dougy-boy. Be a man and anaswer the question. It's not actually that difficult. As for who funds the conspiracy -- it's actually a consortium of the jewish bankers and the english royal family, with some additional support from the north koreans. Once we have introduced the carbon tax, we then plan on killing all first born children and forcing all old white men to watch britney spears DVDs. And not the old videos when she was hot. The recent fat version!! Be afraid. Anyway. You still have typed enough words. I want at least another 2000 from you by tomorrow. Now get to work. (And try to answer the question.) And finally, no D... you're poor because you're incompetent. lol… another solid doug rant. Fun for the whole family.

Unfortunately, you forgot to answer the question. I’ll repeat it in case you’ve forgotten:

Which do you prefer — a high fuel tax and no electricity tax… or a low fuel tax and a low electricity tax?

Come on dougy-boy. Be a man and anaswer the question. It’s not actually that difficult.

As for who funds the conspiracy — it’s actually a consortium of the jewish bankers and the english royal family, with some additional support from the north koreans. Once we have introduced the carbon tax, we then plan on killing all first born children and forcing all old white men to watch britney spears DVDs. And not the old videos when she was hot. The recent fat version!!

Be afraid.

Anyway. You still have typed enough words. I want at least another 2000 from you by tomorrow. Now get to work. (And try to answer the question.)

And finally, no D… you’re poor because you’re incompetent.

]]> By: D http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1122 D Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:34:11 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1122 Not that lot, not when it comes to their fat wallets courtesy of donors. What's telling lies compared to a bank vault's worth of pay? Now I know why I'm poor, I'm a sucker for truth. Not that lot, not when it comes to their fat wallets courtesy of donors. What’s telling lies compared to a bank vault’s worth of pay? Now I know why I’m poor, I’m a sucker for truth.

]]> By: Graeme Bird http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1121 Graeme Bird Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:22:33 +0000 http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/05/centre-of-independent-studies-is-deliberately-deceiving-the-public-it-is-campaigning-for-the-imposition-of-carbon-taxes/#comment-1121 They certainly appear to be a disgraceful outfit. I'd say they have no understanding of science. But the thing is..... would these people care even if they had enough understanding to realise that its a racket? They wouldn't likely give a toss. They would still want this devastating little carbon tax. Tailormade to get the power outages in Australia, that we are now seeing in South Africa. They certainly appear to be a disgraceful outfit. I’d say they have no understanding of science. But the thing is….. would these people care even if they had enough understanding to realise that its a racket?

They wouldn’t likely give a toss. They would still want this devastating little carbon tax. Tailormade to get the power outages in Australia, that we are now seeing in South Africa.

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