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	<title>Comments on: CIS, to buttress its position, has rented a fan club</title>
	<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/</link>
	<description>Free markets, capital, and entrepreneurs are the bedrock of civilisation.They dragged man out of the gutters,civilised him,dignified him,gave him liberty.Socialism is an excuse to pauperise untold millions,enslave untold millions,murder untold millions, over a century now: Why has the Liberal Party shifted to the code of savages?</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: [BLOCKED BY STBV] Gas Saving Engine Chip</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>[BLOCKED BY STBV] Gas Saving Engine Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1512</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Gas Saving Engine Chip...&lt;/strong&gt;

I don't mean to be too in your face, but I'm not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I'll come to this blog more often....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Gas Saving Engine Chip&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be too in your face, but I&#8217;m not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I&#8217;ll come to this blog more often&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: unnikuttan</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1414</link>
		<dc:creator>unnikuttan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1414</guid>
		<description>nice analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Bird</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1235</guid>
		<description>Well there's a lie right there. I've been talking about energy-economics and the impending energy crisis for two years now. During that time the oil price has gone from about 40USD to 110 USD.

I've been involved with threads of doom on these matters. I've written essays on my own blogs.

Now Humphreys. I'm not interested in you dodging the argument. Your shiftiness is very clear here. Unlike at "Thoughts On Freedom" you have not been able to wipe my posts.

Now here's just a brief few points to get your teeth into:

1. Industrial-CO2 is a positive externality. There’s no getting around that. 

2. A carbon-tax will fall more fully on productive expenditure than just about any other tax as Gerry points out.

3. A carbon-tax may lead to malinvestment. So its a massive exercise in deliberately “picking losers”. 

4. A carbon-tax will lead to a reduction in reinvestment in energy production.

5. It is in fact a tax on energy production IN THE MIDDLE OF AN IMPENDING ENERGY CRISIS. A crisis not caused by inherent lack of fuel, but by enforced deprivation of energy-producing capital.

6. Our hydro-carbon energy resources are fundamentally carbon-rich and hydrogen-poor. So our next move is away from using gasoline and natural gas and towards using more coal and heavy fuels. So the carbon-tax sits directly on top of our adaptation efforts. Its about the worst tax imagineable at this time in our energy history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there&#8217;s a lie right there. I&#8217;ve been talking about energy-economics and the impending energy crisis for two years now. During that time the oil price has gone from about 40USD to 110 USD.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been involved with threads of doom on these matters. I&#8217;ve written essays on my own blogs.</p>
<p>Now Humphreys. I&#8217;m not interested in you dodging the argument. Your shiftiness is very clear here. Unlike at &#8220;Thoughts On Freedom&#8221; you have not been able to wipe my posts.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s just a brief few points to get your teeth into:</p>
<p>1. Industrial-CO2 is a positive externality. There’s no getting around that. </p>
<p>2. A carbon-tax will fall more fully on productive expenditure than just about any other tax as Gerry points out.</p>
<p>3. A carbon-tax may lead to malinvestment. So its a massive exercise in deliberately “picking losers”. </p>
<p>4. A carbon-tax will lead to a reduction in reinvestment in energy production.</p>
<p>5. It is in fact a tax on energy production IN THE MIDDLE OF AN IMPENDING ENERGY CRISIS. A crisis not caused by inherent lack of fuel, but by enforced deprivation of energy-producing capital.</p>
<p>6. Our hydro-carbon energy resources are fundamentally carbon-rich and hydrogen-poor. So our next move is away from using gasoline and natural gas and towards using more coal and heavy fuels. So the carbon-tax sits directly on top of our adaptation efforts. Its about the worst tax imagineable at this time in our energy history.</p>
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		<title>By: John Humphreys</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>John Humphreys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1223</guid>
		<description>Graeme -- you have made no analysis. You have simply ranted. I'm not even sure your comments have been in english. I've fully addressed every single comment from Gerry. His arguments have been dismantled. Don't blame me if you don't understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme &#8212; you have made no analysis. You have simply ranted. I&#8217;m not even sure your comments have been in english. I&#8217;ve fully addressed every single comment from Gerry. His arguments have been dismantled. Don&#8217;t blame me if you don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Bird</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1215</guid>
		<description>No you skated around Gerry's arguments and you never addressed my supplementary analysis though it has been sent your way for two years.

I wanted yuou to actually address my arguments and not merely assert falsely that you had already done so.

You might have thought I was after such false assertions but actually I wanted you to address the arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No you skated around Gerry&#8217;s arguments and you never addressed my supplementary analysis though it has been sent your way for two years.</p>
<p>I wanted yuou to actually address my arguments and not merely assert falsely that you had already done so.</p>
<p>You might have thought I was after such false assertions but actually I wanted you to address the arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: Pages tagged "circuitous"</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "circuitous"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1190</guid>
		<description>[...] tagged circuitousOwn a Wordpress blog? Make monetization easier with the WP Affiliate Pro plugin. CIS, to buttress its position, has rented a fan cl...&#160;saved by 10 others  &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160;jua5hotmailcom bookmarked on 03/13/08 &#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] tagged circuitousOwn a Wordpress blog? Make monetization easier with the WP Affiliate Pro plugin. CIS, to buttress its position, has rented a fan cl&#8230;&nbsp;saved by 10 others  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;jua5hotmailcom bookmarked on 03/13/08 | [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John Humphreys</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>John Humphreys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1165</guid>
		<description>Graeme -- the arguments are all set out in my post &#38; comments on the ALS blog. The bloody twitching body of Gerry's credibility has been left sprawled on the floor.

He has been weighed. He has been tested. And he has been found wanting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme &#8212; the arguments are all set out in my post &amp; comments on the ALS blog. The bloody twitching body of Gerry&#8217;s credibility has been left sprawled on the floor.</p>
<p>He has been weighed. He has been tested. And he has been found wanting.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Bird</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1163</guid>
		<description>But what they aren't doing is engaging the arguments for and against the carbon tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what they aren&#8217;t doing is engaging the arguments for and against the carbon tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Terje (say tay-a)</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator>Terje (say tay-a)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1162</guid>
		<description>Catallaxy has some fun with the hippy spin:-

http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3470</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catallaxy has some fun with the hippy spin:-</p>
<p><a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3470" rel="nofollow">http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3470</a></p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Bird</title>
		<link>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://rumcorps.net/mangledthoughts/2008/03/11/cis-to-buttress-its-position-has-rented-a-fan-club/#comment-1158</guid>
		<description>Looks like you haven't stepped out of that argument-free-zone you keep yourself surrounded in Humphreys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like you haven&#8217;t stepped out of that argument-free-zone you keep yourself surrounded in Humphreys.</p>
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